2026-07-072026-07-07http://salesiana.dossiersoluciones.com/handle/123456789/119590This note has been written on the occasion of Gerard 't Hooft's 60th birthday celebration. It is not a technical paper but just a collection of discussions that the three authors had with Gerard, mostly in relation with the idea of holography and aspects of quantum black hole physics.7 pages, Contribution to Gerard 't Hooft's 60th birthday celebration ``Under the Spell of Physics''History and Philosophy of PhysicsHigh Energy Physics - Theorytext